Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Jack Ditch's avatar

I think it's important to clarify that the President's power to set tariffs is actually Congress' power, delegated to the President by Congress. I would love to see Congress reclaim that power. Some of them are certainly trying, but of course, the time to do this was before Trump got reelected. So much of what were suffering now comes from decades of Congress happily ceding power to the executive branch, largely because it distanced them from having to vote on things that could have electoral consequences, without any concern for what would happen if someone like Trump got elected President. There's zero excuse for this not being rectified after 2020, we've all be on notice about the possibility of a President like Trump. But for everything the #Resistance tried, they couldn't be bothered to actually constrain the President's powers, not while the President was once again on their side. So, a pox on both their houses.

Also, I agree with basically everything you're saying about tariffs, but I feel like you're not addressing the downsides of "free" trade. When we burden domestic production with virtually innumerable regulations on employment and environmental impact, a lack of tariffs isn't really free trade, it's more "libertarianism for thee, regulation for me."

Now from a pure libertarian standpoint, we could scrap all those regulations and allow sweatshop-like conditions and smoggy cities domestically. A lot of libertarians would support that, maybe you do too? But if you don't, tariffs can be an important part of this regulatory framework. And this isn't just a hypothetical exercise; three decades of tight domestic regulations mixed with free international trade have destroyed communities across the U.S. The government has been putting its fingers on the scale for over a century; some combination of tariffs and relaxing domestic regulations is necessary to at least make that thumbing fairer. So yeah, I get the libertarian arguments against tariffs, but you need to better account for the regulatory context and real-world consequences of how "free" trade has actually been practiced.

You say you aren't a "taxation is theft" sort of libertarian, but I say, recognize that all taxation is theft and then ask when that theft is nonetheless justified. It's better than not understanding the moral negative of taxation, and it's better than not understanding when the tradeoff is worth it for some other important value.

Finally, I just want to reiterate that, though I understand the intentions behind these tariffs, and I hope they shake out to some benefit for the working class, I'm not betting they actually will. I don't actually support Trump's approach to this. I just don't see any other politicians even trying to address the underlying problem, so he's the only option for anyone who sees the problem.

Expand full comment

No posts